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Fred Gallo, Ph.D., Energy Psychology, An Interview - Page 5
By Jay Kantor, Ph.D. , Ridgewood, NJ, EFTNJ.Com, 201-461-7347
Appearing on EnergyPsychology.US  

which I call Energy Diagnostic and Treatment Methods (EDxTM).  The distinction in my system is that I don't assume that once I find a disruption in the heart meridian, for example, that I would always treat the same point.  In acupuncture they don't always use the same point.  What I started finding when I looked further was that that point wasn't always the point that was needed, and I'd have to find some other point and that would fix it where the other didn't.  So I've extended my system to look at points on the whole meridian.

      Another aspect of energy psychology has to do with ways of treating people when they have core conflicts about wanting to be healed.  Diamond came up with an idea called "Reversal of the Body Morality" which is basically when you respond to something that is bad for you as if it were good for you.  Callahan took that further and he developed the term "Psychological Reversal" and explored it and defined ways to treat it as a meridian problem also.

JK: What do we mean by "Psychological Reversal?"

Fred Gallo: It's a block to treatment effectiveness.  For example, someone who has a phobia might say, "I really want to get over this phobia.  I really have to get over it.  I'm having lots of trouble with this."  If a person has a psychological reversal for getting over that phobia, what it means is that at an unconscious level, which is at an energetic level too, there is a block -- a configuration that's very difficult to get to.  What it does is to prevent any therapeutic efforts from working.

JK: Like a self-sabotage?

Fred Gallo: Yes.  It's almost like a fail-safe system for the phobia, so that it can't be overridden.  So you have to find this block, if it's there, and then there are ways to disengage it.  That's a neat thing that Callahan looked at.

      When whatever I'm doing is not working with a client, I check for a psychological reversal.  It's a very simple process to check for a reversal.  I have a person say, "I want to get over this problem" and I check their muscle.  It should stay strong, as sort of a "Yes."

      There are actually variety of psychological reasons why therapy may not work.  For example, I was working with a man and when we tested whether he wanted to get over his problem, his muscle stayed strong, even though the therapy wasn't working.  I thought how could this be?  Then the client said to me, "I don't know.  Maybe I don't feel I deserve to get over this problem."  So I had him say, "I deserve to get over this problem" and his muscle went weak.  When he said, "I don't deserve to get over this problem," his muscle stayed strong.  Then I explored how we could fix that.  We fixed that by having him tap under his bottom lip, while he said to himself, "I deeply accept myself even though I don't deserve to get over this problem."  After that, the therapy I did with him worked.

      That made me start thinking that there might be all kinds of permutations of these reversals, and I started exploring that.  I found one for safety, one for identity -- like, if I get over this problem, I'll lose an important part of my identity.  Sometimes that kind of reversal is going on.

JK: Please talk about some more cases you've worked with.

Fred Gallo: I'd like to talk about a person I worked with during the last week.  This case shows the spiritual dimension of this method.  This woman came to see me because of feeling distressed about an altercation she had with an uncle during a church meeting.  She went away from that very upset, and then recalled all these other things in their relationship over the years.  It was just bothering

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